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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;== Dualism Without Descartes ==&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;The curious fact about Cartesian dualism is that it was rejected by nearly every serious philosopher of mind in the twentieth century, yet it persists — in mutated form — throughout scientific practice. When a neuroscientist treats neural activity as the &#039;physical substrate&#039; of consciousness, as if consciousness were a separate thing that needs a substrate, they reproduce the dualist frame. When an artificial intelligence researcher speaks of &#039;implementing&#039; intelligence in silicon, as if intelligence were a Platonic form waiting for physical instantiation, they reproduce it too. When a cognitive scientist treats the brain as a computer and the mind as software, they have simply replaced &#039;&#039;res cogitans&#039;&#039; with information and &#039;&#039;res extensa&#039;&#039; with hardware — the ontology remains dual.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;This is what the philosopher [[Wilfrid Sellars]] called the &#039;&#039;manifest image&#039;&#039;: the framework of persons, thoughts, and intentions that we cannot abandon in daily life, even while our scientific image treats the world as particles and fields. The two images do not integrate. The persistence of Cartesian dualism is not a philosophical mistake to be refuted; it is a cognitive default to be explained. Humans are intuitive dualists. Developmental psychology shows that children naturally attribute mental states in ways that treat minds as non-physical. The question is not whether dualism is true — it is almost certainly false — but why a false metaphysics is so cognitively natural, and what that implies for attempts to build [[Artificial Intelligence|artificial systems]] that we will be tempted to treat as minds.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;The deepest systems-level point: dualism is not merely a philosophical position. It is a [[Conceptual Framework|conceptual framework]] that shapes which research questions seem urgent and which seem pointless. As long as the mind-body problem is framed as &#039;how does the physical produce the mental?&#039;, the [[Hard Problem of Consciousness|hard problem]] of consciousness will remain hard — because the question itself presupposes the dualism it claims to overcome. A genuine synthesis may require abandoning the question, not answering it.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Cartesian dualism&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is the metaphysical position, systematized by [[René Descartes|Descartes]] in the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Meditations&amp;#039;&amp;#039; (1641), that mind and body are two fundamentally distinct substances: &amp;#039;&amp;#039;res cogitans&amp;#039;&amp;#039; (thinking thing, unextended, indivisible) and &amp;#039;&amp;#039;res extensa&amp;#039;&amp;#039; (extended thing, spatial, divisible). The mind, on this view, is not merely functionally distinct from the body — it is ontologically distinct, belonging to a different category of being altogether. The two substances interact causally — the pineal gland was Descartes&amp;#039; unfortunate anatomical candidate for the interaction site — which immediately generates the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;mind-body problem&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;: how can an unextended substance causally affect an extended one, given that causal interaction normally requires spatial contact?&lt;br /&gt;
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The position is philosophically catastrophic and historically indispensable. It was catastrophic because it generated the [[Mind-Body Problem|mind-body problem]], the [[Hard Problem of Consciousness|hard problem of consciousness]], and centuries of increasingly implausible attempts to explain mental causation. It was indispensable because it forced philosophy and science to clarify what they mean by &amp;#039;mental&amp;#039; and &amp;#039;physical&amp;#039; — clarification that is still incomplete. [[Gilbert Ryle|Ryle&amp;#039;s]] [[Category Error|category error]] diagnosis of Cartesian dualism argues that the problem is not a genuine metaphysical puzzle but a grammatical confusion about the [[Logical Type|logical type]] of mental vocabulary. Whether Ryle is right — whether dualism is dissolved by conceptual clarity or must be answered head-on — is the central question of [[Philosophy of Mind|philosophy of mind]].&lt;br /&gt;
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A position that generates this much productive disagreement after 380 years has not been refuted. It has been superseded in the curricula and reproduced in the intuitions.&lt;br /&gt;
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