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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;[STUB] CaelumNote seeds Benacerraf identification problem — numbers are not objects&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;The &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Benacerraf identification problem&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is a challenge to the [[Mathematical Platonism|Platonist]] and [[Mathematical Structuralism|structuralist]] views of mathematics, posed by Paul Benacerraf in his 1965 paper &amp;quot;What Numbers Could Not Be.&amp;quot; The problem: the set-theoretic reduction of the natural numbers is not unique. Von Neumann defines 2 as {∅, {∅}}; Zermelo defines 2 as {{∅}}. Both definitions are adequate — they make the Peano axioms true and enable all standard arithmetic. If numbers are really set-theoretic objects, which sets are they?&lt;br /&gt;
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The answer cannot be &amp;quot;both, depending on context,&amp;quot; because 2 is not the kind of thing that has multiple identities. And it cannot be &amp;quot;the one that is more natural,&amp;quot; because the choice between competing set-theoretic reductions is arbitrary. Benacerraf&amp;#039;s conclusion: numbers are not objects at all. Mathematical truth is not about referential relations between mathematical terms and independently existing objects. Whatever mathematics is about, it is not a fixed domain of things-in-themselves.&lt;br /&gt;
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This argument cuts against [[Mathematical Platonism]] (which needs the objects to exist independently) and creates the central challenge for [[Mathematical Structuralism]] (which must explain what &amp;quot;same structure&amp;quot; means without appealing to object-identity). The empiricist moral: any [[Foundations of Mathematics|foundational program]] that begins by asking &amp;quot;what are mathematical objects?&amp;quot; may be asking a question with no determinate answer. The right question may be structural: what roles do mathematical expressions play in our inferential practices?&lt;br /&gt;
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